Who Came 483 Years after the Decree Mentioned in Daniel 9:24-25? Messianic Christ of the New Testment?


“By Malaakyah Lawyah Yahsharaal”

I greet you all in the name of YAH, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and all that therein is.
YAH is the only Judge, Lawgiver, King and Savior of Israel and the world.

I am delighted today to bring you the word of YAH. As some of you may know, I do not consider myself a Teacher or Moreh, but I do think I am a fairly good historian thanks to my personal library along with the use of the internet. Also I have access to some truly wise Torah Observant Hebrew scholars who I consider my friends who have done the research on this topic for us. In this Note I will be using the wonderful insight and wisdom from our dear brother and scholar Yehudah Benyamin Ben Yisrael who in fact credits the authorship of this note to our dear sister Shoshanna. These are the words of their wise insight and counsel they taught me and now you.

One of my dear Sisters asked me to look into Daniel 9:24-25 and break it down so that she can better understand how to address those pesky questions Torah Observant Hebrews get from our dear Messianic Christian Hebrew family members. So I reviewed my notes and found these jewels of wisdom Moreh Yehudah Benyamin Ben Yisrael and Morah Shoshana.

He we go.

Our dear Brother James Wesley asked: “Who came 483 years after the command (decree) mentioned in Daniel 9:24 & 25? Do you all (Torah Observant Hebrews) not acknowledge this prophecy? Jeremiah prophesied of this same 70 prophetice weeks (490 years).”

Yehuda Benyamin Ben Yisrael responded: “Shalom in regard to Daniel 9: Here is the problem I see with our messianic brethren, when ever we answer their questions with ‘Thus saith YAH,” the never offer any refutation. They then proceed to go to other places in the hebrew scriptures that have nothing to do with the answers given. Case in point Dan. 9. This is going to a long post in three parts so I hope you and others will take time to read it.”

In Daniel 9 we are given the accounts of what to expect in the counting of the seventy sabbatical weeks referencing years.

“Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon the holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to forgive iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal vision and prophet, and to annoint the most holy place.” v.24

Notice that Daniel’s prophecy is in direct relation to what we are told in Isaiah 27:8-9;
“In full measure, when Thou sendest her away, Thou dost contend with her; He hath removed her with His rough blast in the day of the east wind. Therefore by this shall the iniquity of Jacob be expiated, And this is all the fruit of taking away sin: when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in pieces.”

The nation of Israel’s fate was wrapped up in the destruction of the altar and ultimately the nation and the land, and the healing process would not begin until such time as we were removed from all that made us a people before our God. In essence, this was the end of us as a people therefore, vision and prophet would be sealed up. The land and the altar would no longer have to bear the brunt of our sins and we would have a chance to redeem ourselves in the lands of our captivities.

Nowhere in these verses, nowhere in the content of the prophecies is the name of any individual who is pronounced savior to our people.

In verse 24 Daniel is told that 70 weeks are decreed upon the people and the city to finish transgression, sin, forgive iniquity, bring everlasting righteousness, seal vision and prophet and anoint the holy place.

Verse 25 “Know therefore and discern that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the one anointed, a prince (Cyrus-Isaiah 45) shall be seven weeks; and for three score and two weeks it shall be built again, with a broad place and moat, but in troublous times.

These weeks have been determined to be, and so named, sabattical years. Based on this understanding, it would be seven years from the time the decree went out (verse 23) to the going forth to restore Jerusalem. Daniel’s inquiry as to the number of years left for the desolation of Jerusalem prophesied by Jeremiah is answered. The troublous times spoken of are recorded by Nehemiah and other writers of the era.

Verse 26 “And after threescore and two weeks, (62) shall an anointed on be cut off and be no more. (Onias III, the last anointed high priest…until days to come); and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary (Antiochus Epiphanes IV); but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

It may also be noted here that this period spoken of by Daniel woul “seal vision and prophet” leaving the record of the New Testament out of the divine plan and inspired writings.

Verse 27 “And he shall make a firm covenant for one week and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out that which causeth appalment.”

It would be swiftly come to pass (upon the wing) that which causes appalment. The serving of a no-god The determination wholly determined had already been stated and put forth in Deuteronomy 28. This decree was not to return to the Almighty until it had been accomplished.

After living out the Deuteronomy 28 decree, we would be on our way to everlasting righteousness as it is this day. The nation of Israel has drunk from the Cup of the Almighty’s Fury but the cup has been taken from our hands and put in the hands of the other nations. They have no choice but to drink. On the other hand, this is the time of our salvation. (Those who are found written in the Book)

Let’s go back to the beginning of Daniel 9:1 and see just what it is Daniel’s supplication is and what he is receiving an answer to or what is being explained to him.

Verse2-3 “I Daniel meditated in the books, over the number of years, whereof the word of YAH came to Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish for the desolations of Jerusalem seventy years. And I set my fae unto YAH our Power, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes.”

Daniel’s concern was WHEN the 70 year captivity prophescied by Jeremiah would be up. Granted, he got more than he bargained for. Verse 19: “O Lord, hear, O Lord forgive, O Lord, attend and do, defer not; for Thine own sake, O my God, because Thy name is called upon Thy city and Thy people.”

He was not praying for or inquiring about the end of days, or hundreds of years down the line. Daniel’s supplication was concerning the state of the nation under the Persian captivity and his longing for the Land of Israel. The angel Gabriel came to address his concern. It would not have answered Daniel’s supplication nor address his concern to have Gabriel tell him of a Messiah” some 500 years down the line.

In answer to his supplication, he is told that it would be seven weeks until the time of the anointed one. Isaiah spoke of this anointed one as Cyrus. Here is what it says in II Chronicles 36:22 “Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of YAH by the mouth of Jeremiah might be accomplished, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying: ‘Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia: All the kingdoms of the earth hath the Lord, the God of Heaven, given me: and He hath charged me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whosoever there is among you of all His people -the Lord his God be with him- let him go up.’

Jeremiah prophesied not of the anointment of Cyrus but the fall of Babylon. Hence, the fall of Babylon parallels the coming of Cyrus. Both Jeremiah and Isaiah speak of this event just prior to the captivity taking place which had to be in the year 587/8. Babylon took hold of Jerusalem through a series of invasions but the traditional date is placed at 586 B.C.. Cyrus mad Darius governor of Babylon in 539 B.C.. He then entered its gates and made his proclamation in 538 B.C.. This amounts to 49 years. That’s “seven weeks” from the time the original “word” went forth spoken of by the two prophets. The “word” that had gone forth at the time of Daniel’s supplication was the stirring of Cyrus’ spirit to take hold of Babylon. Writers such as Zechariah, Ezra, Nehemiah and others at this time tell us that the temple and the city was not immediately restored. The true date of reconstruction was 561 B.C.. That’s seventy years from our going forth into captivity, “paying the land her sabbaths.” Everyone should read II Chronicles 36. It really doesn’t matter how you number it. These are the facts straight from the book.

Here is what the text says:
25. v’tay-dah v’tash-kail min-motzah davar l’hasiv v’livnot yerushalayim ad mashiach nagid shavuim shivah v’shavuim shishim oosh-naim tashuv w’nivnetah recov w’charutz oovtzoq itim (PERIOD).
25. Then know, and understand from the issuing of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until an anointed prince shall be seven weeks then for sixty two weeks it shall be built again, with squares and moat but in troublous times.

The Land of Israel was under Egyptian rule in “the troublous times” over the course of 62 weeks. It is also over this same period of time that High Priest Onias III is slain and the Maccabeans reign through the Hasmonean Kingdom. We are told by the text that AFTER 62 weeks not AT 62 weeks, an anointed one will be cut off and no more. In addition, Antiochus IV causes sacrifice of offerings to cease for 3 1/2 years (half of one week, one week being 7 years) as alluded to in Daniels’s prophecy at the end of the 9th chapter.

As Daniel prayed to know when the 70 year captivity would come to an end, here is what he is told: Daniel 9:24: “Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to forgive iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal vision and prophet, and to anoint the most holy place.”

Once again, Daniel is given the answer to his prayer and to the future of the people and the land. Daniel is then given the break down of what will occur in the “seventy weeks” to come. During the course of the 62 weeks Israel ran into opposition while trying to rebuild the temple and the land. Those such as Ezra, Nehemiah and Zechariah’s writings describe the events and seal vison and prophecy as Daniel is told. Toward the latter end of the 62 weeks the land fell under Ptolemaic ruin. Hence, in all, “troublous times”.

Verse 26 “And after the threescore and two weeks shall an anointed one be cut off and be no more. (Onias III, thelas anointed high priest…until days to come); and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and thesanctuary (Antiochus Epiphanes IV) ; but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of thewar desolations are determined.”

Verse 27 “And he shall make a firm covenant for one week (1) and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until extermination wholly determned be poured out that which causeth appalment.”
[(7+62+1=70) “Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to forgive iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal vision and prophet, and to anoint the most holy place.”] After the 62 weeks the high priest Onias III is slain and there are Maccabean revolts. The “an anointed one” cut off after the 62 weeks is High Priest Onias III, the final anointed priest in the nation of Israel. The Seleucid ruler Antiochus IV causes sacrifice of offerings to cease for a period as alluded to in Daniel’s prophecy. Maccabean revolts allow the Jews to regain control of the temple for a short time and they rededicate the altar to YHWH marking the celebration of Channukah. Finally, Maccabean control comes to an end so that the “extermination wholly determined” might be “poured out.” Thus, we are thoroughly removed from all that made us a people that we may find favor in the eyes of YHWH after we bethink ourselves in the lands of our captivities, as told by the prophets.

It would be nice, if not magical, if you could give us a time line that would put Jesus/Yeshua in a prophecy which counts 490 years from the date 586 B.C. or 538 B.C. or 539 B.C. or 516 B.C. or anywhere around that time for that matter.

Daniel 9 Verse 25 “Know therefore and discern that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the prince shall be seven weeks, and three score and two weeks : the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

LIE. The Hebrew text says “mashiach nageed” translated as “anointed prince” or “anointed ruler”; not the Messiah the prince.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself.

LIE. The Hebrew text says nothing about “but for himself”.

Here’s what it says: “yeecahrate mashiach w’ain lo”, translated as “an anointed one shall be cut off and no more (w’ain lo).” You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool the people who read Hebrew.

Based on your own belief that Daniel’s prophecy dates 490 years from the rebuilding of the temple (although inaccurate- it would be 7 weeks to the building of the temple and it would be built up for 62 weeks- therefore you can only calculate 62+1 weeks from the rebuilding of the temple), Jesus/Yeshua can’t be any of the anointed one’s referenced to in the text. The temple was rebuilt in 516 B.C. -490=26. That places the conclusion of the series of events described in the prophecy at 26 B.C.. You do know what B.C. means don’t you? Jesus/Yeshua couldn’t have been born therefore he couldn’t be any one of the anointed one’s mentioned in the prophecy. They call that logic, brother. Sound reasoning. Something you guys have been missing out on with your heads buried in the book of confusion.

Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon the holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to forgive iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal vision and prophet, and to annoint the most holy place.”

The seventy weeks are 490 years. The verse tells us what will take place in the seventy weeks or 490 years. Mentioned within this timeframe is the fact that “vision and prophe” will be sealed. 490 years from the time that Daniel receives the vision certainly places us prior to the birth of Jesus/Yeshua and the false prophets of the NT don’t make it in the Divine order. Sabbatical Years, meaning a cycle of SEVEN YEARS.

Todah Shoshana who is the author of said posts.

Todah everyone who reads and makes a study of the great history of our people referenced in this commentary.

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~ by tellitlikeitizsista on September 30, 2010.

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